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		<title>By: Holemaster</title>
		<link>http://www.cackaloo.com/2009/01/29/for-the-good-o-me-health/#comment-4501</link>
		<dc:creator>Holemaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(firm) sorry ass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(firm) sorry ass</p>
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		<title>By: Holemaster</title>
		<link>http://www.cackaloo.com/2009/01/29/for-the-good-o-me-health/#comment-4500</link>
		<dc:creator>Holemaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still tough it might help getting the thing axed. They also insure my sorry ass.</description>
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		<title>By: K8</title>
		<link>http://www.cackaloo.com/2009/01/29/for-the-good-o-me-health/#comment-4499</link>
		<dc:creator>K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting on this, that niggling little voice that spoke to me as I wrote it warned me that the petition may not be all it&#039;s cracked up to be, has been voiced by Holemaster, but thanks for reading it anyway!

Tits.

Oh well.

It&#039;s just as well Hibernian insures my sorry ass, it might come in handy when the lynch mob forms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting on this, that niggling little voice that spoke to me as I wrote it warned me that the petition may not be all it&#8217;s cracked up to be, has been voiced by Holemaster, but thanks for reading it anyway!</p>
<p>Tits.</p>
<p>Oh well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just as well Hibernian insures my sorry ass, it might come in handy when the lynch mob forms.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://www.cackaloo.com/2009/01/29/for-the-good-o-me-health/#comment-4498</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi K8, love the new look.

The issue that most people miss here is not that the levy is unfair on young families, (it is), or that older people have to pay over the odds for their private health insurance, (they shouldn&#039;t), but that private health insurance shouldn&#039;t be necessary in the first place.

A large percentage of our taxes go to the Health Service. Given the amounts of money we&#039;ve invested, there is no reason that we should not have a first class service available to everyone, regardless of age or financial ability.

I for one think that the levy should be scrapped and the money that we already pay should be put to proper use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi K8, love the new look.</p>
<p>The issue that most people miss here is not that the levy is unfair on young families, (it is), or that older people have to pay over the odds for their private health insurance, (they shouldn&#8217;t), but that private health insurance shouldn&#8217;t be necessary in the first place.</p>
<p>A large percentage of our taxes go to the Health Service. Given the amounts of money we&#8217;ve invested, there is no reason that we should not have a first class service available to everyone, regardless of age or financial ability.</p>
<p>I for one think that the levy should be scrapped and the money that we already pay should be put to proper use.</p>
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		<title>By: English Mum</title>
		<link>http://www.cackaloo.com/2009/01/29/for-the-good-o-me-health/#comment-4497</link>
		<dc:creator>English Mum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we first moved here, someone told me that it&#039;s not worth getting health insurance in this country as there&#039;s some sort of cap on how much you pay yearly, and it&#039;s nowhere near the premiums one pays for insurance.  I&#039;ve never checked it out though.  It can&#039;t be true as I&#039;ve never heard anything about it again.  Bloody rip off though x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we first moved here, someone told me that it&#8217;s not worth getting health insurance in this country as there&#8217;s some sort of cap on how much you pay yearly, and it&#8217;s nowhere near the premiums one pays for insurance.  I&#8217;ve never checked it out though.  It can&#8217;t be true as I&#8217;ve never heard anything about it again.  Bloody rip off though x</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree K8.

While I believe the principle is sound, the implementation is completely wrong. It is funded solely by people who have private insurance instead of all Irish tax payers.

Also, as you mentioned it should be based on ability to pay. At a fixed rate it is deeply inequitable. Somebody on the most basic &quot;public hospital only&quot; scheme pays the same €160 as somebody on the more expensive top notch, gold circle scheme (where you actually stay in your surgeoun&#039;s guest bedroom and post-operative care consists of 2 weeks in the Bahamas). Instead it should be calculated as a percentage of your policy cost - then those who can afford more expensive policies will contribute more to the scheme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree K8.</p>
<p>While I believe the principle is sound, the implementation is completely wrong. It is funded solely by people who have private insurance instead of all Irish tax payers.</p>
<p>Also, as you mentioned it should be based on ability to pay. At a fixed rate it is deeply inequitable. Somebody on the most basic &#8220;public hospital only&#8221; scheme pays the same €160 as somebody on the more expensive top notch, gold circle scheme (where you actually stay in your surgeoun&#8217;s guest bedroom and post-operative care consists of 2 weeks in the Bahamas). Instead it should be calculated as a percentage of your policy cost &#8211; then those who can afford more expensive policies will contribute more to the scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: Holemaster</title>
		<link>http://www.cackaloo.com/2009/01/29/for-the-good-o-me-health/#comment-4495</link>
		<dc:creator>Holemaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K8,

You&#039;re listing number one under a blog search for Hibernian Aviva Health.

Their levy campaign is a cheap publicity stunt reminiscent of the Axe the Tax campaign in the 1980s. It&#039;s a faux consumer power campaign, cheap advertising for a profit making company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K8,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re listing number one under a blog search for Hibernian Aviva Health.</p>
<p>Their levy campaign is a cheap publicity stunt reminiscent of the Axe the Tax campaign in the 1980s. It&#8217;s a faux consumer power campaign, cheap advertising for a profit making company.</p>
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		<title>By: K8</title>
		<link>http://www.cackaloo.com/2009/01/29/for-the-good-o-me-health/#comment-4494</link>
		<dc:creator>K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh.  I&#039;ve just sat down to relax and read over, and have discovered that my comments above make very little sense.  I am highly embarrassed, and reserve the right to blame my children.

What I should&#039;ve said, is this:

My wording appears very selfish to my condition, to the extent that I might seem ageist, I&#039;m not.  I know I&#039;ll be getting old.  I&#039;m against the way the problem has been handled.

This levy should be means tested on both sides of the fence, shouldn&#039;t it?

I mean does it seem fair that a young couple with a child suddenly find themselves unemployed with large hikes in health insurance when &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; need it most?  If they cancel their plan, then try to take out a policy again in the future, they&#039;re screwed.  What if their heartache meant that their levy went to some retired C.E.O. of a huge company who owns two villas and a VIP seat at all Liverpool matches?

The levy should apply to those who can afford it, and should only be given to those who really need it.  Unfortunately I don&#039;t think it&#039;s going that way.

I need to study this a bit more, I&#039;m painfully uninformed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh.  I&#8217;ve just sat down to relax and read over, and have discovered that my comments above make very little sense.  I am highly embarrassed, and reserve the right to blame my children.</p>
<p>What I should&#8217;ve said, is this:</p>
<p>My wording appears very selfish to my condition, to the extent that I might seem ageist, I&#8217;m not.  I know I&#8217;ll be getting old.  I&#8217;m against the way the problem has been handled.</p>
<p>This levy should be means tested on both sides of the fence, shouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I mean does it seem fair that a young couple with a child suddenly find themselves unemployed with large hikes in health insurance when <i>they</i> need it most?  If they cancel their plan, then try to take out a policy again in the future, they&#8217;re screwed.  What if their heartache meant that their levy went to some retired C.E.O. of a huge company who owns two villas and a VIP seat at all Liverpool matches?</p>
<p>The levy should apply to those who can afford it, and should only be given to those who really need it.  Unfortunately I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going that way.</p>
<p>I need to study this a bit more, I&#8217;m painfully uninformed.</p>
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		<title>By: K8</title>
		<link>http://www.cackaloo.com/2009/01/29/for-the-good-o-me-health/#comment-4493</link>
		<dc:creator>K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the above insurance company (in hindsight) wouldn&#039;t mention the fact that this levy&#039;s subsidising the elderly - I really wasn&#039;t aware of the fact when I wrote it.

I wouldn&#039;t dream of penalising them or any other sector of the community, but the levy is so high, it seems unbalanced.

This increase is going to hurt those in lower paid jobs, especially with young families... I don&#039;t see why the government would want them to be pushed towards an overfilled public health system?

My point is that this is a huge hike... for me anyway, 2 x Adults, 2 x children is €426 -that really hurts right now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the above insurance company (in hindsight) wouldn&#8217;t mention the fact that this levy&#8217;s subsidising the elderly &#8211; I really wasn&#8217;t aware of the fact when I wrote it.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t dream of penalising them or any other sector of the community, but the levy is so high, it seems unbalanced.</p>
<p>This increase is going to hurt those in lower paid jobs, especially with young families&#8230; I don&#8217;t see why the government would want them to be pushed towards an overfilled public health system?</p>
<p>My point is that this is a huge hike&#8230; for me anyway, 2 x Adults, 2 x children is €426 -that really hurts right now!</p>
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		<title>By: Baino</title>
		<link>http://www.cackaloo.com/2009/01/29/for-the-good-o-me-health/#comment-4492</link>
		<dc:creator>Baino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we have a 30% rebate for people who have private health cover to relieve the pressure on our nationalised Medicare system. This is applied as a &#039;levy&#039; to those who aren&#039;t insured and is taken into consideration when you lodge your income tax return. Although as an &#039;ageing&#039; person. I&#039;ve been in the private system since I was 20 and paid full fare so feel that I&#039;m entitled to equitable cover as I age . . .I&#039;ve been in hospital 3 times in 52 years so my cover has helped subsidise older Australians . . .my turn will come I guess. Seems a bit rough penalising the old when they&#039;ve contributed for so many years through tax and private cover? Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we have a 30% rebate for people who have private health cover to relieve the pressure on our nationalised Medicare system. This is applied as a &#8216;levy&#8217; to those who aren&#8217;t insured and is taken into consideration when you lodge your income tax return. Although as an &#8216;ageing&#8217; person. I&#8217;ve been in the private system since I was 20 and paid full fare so feel that I&#8217;m entitled to equitable cover as I age . . .I&#8217;ve been in hospital 3 times in 52 years so my cover has helped subsidise older Australians . . .my turn will come I guess. Seems a bit rough penalising the old when they&#8217;ve contributed for so many years through tax and private cover? Just a thought.</p>
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