Comments on: Blue Rain http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/ "We're all naked underneath" Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:33:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: English Mum http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2051 English Mum Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:48:32 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2051 Oh good lord. I HATE the C word. The thought of li'l Puppychild hearing such ick is too terrible for words. I have to admit to a bit of effing and blinding in the house now my kids are old enough to have heard them and understand the effect they can have. We have a rule that even if Mum or Dad say the odd naughty word (or moan about someone, or whatever), it's a 'within these four walls' thing and that we'd never do it in public. If I'm really cross or fostering a useless greyhound piece of poo with an intensely leaky bladder ('noooo! Don't pee on the fucking floor!!!!!') I do let rip (hipocrite that I am). We try to stick to sod it and bugger if we possibly can though. Do let us know what you decide. I nodded vehemently at the indelible marker though...tempting.... Oh good lord. I HATE the C word. The thought of li’l Puppychild hearing such ick is too terrible for words. I have to admit to a bit of effing and blinding in the house now my kids are old enough to have heard them and understand the effect they can have. We have a rule that even if Mum or Dad say the odd naughty word (or moan about someone, or whatever), it’s a ‘within these four walls’ thing and that we’d never do it in public. If I’m really cross or fostering a useless greyhound piece of poo with an intensely leaky bladder (‘noooo! Don’t pee on the fucking floor!!!!!’) I do let rip (hipocrite that I am). We try to stick to sod it and bugger if we possibly can though.

Do let us know what you decide. I nodded vehemently at the indelible marker though…tempting….

]]> By: Sam, Problemchildbride http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2050 Sam, Problemchildbride Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:24:09 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2050 I reckon Baino might be on to something. Tell him you'll pay him 50 cent or something for not swearing while your kids are playing outside. That might give him the message that not all families curse to that degree. If his mother's a rum 'un, it might be worth calling him in for a snack with your kids sometime on the condition that he doesn't swear. Curiosity might bring him in the first time but it may give him a chance to see how a normal family operates. The message will be that you haven't written him off, you think he's good enough to come into your home but he needs to modify his behaviour while he's there. Or just bring him out a biscuit and lemonade or something when you're giving a snack to your own. Nothing you can do for a kid is ever wasted however much they might reject it, I really believe that. They'll remember the kindness long after you've forgotten it. Thye'll know that there is another way to live your life. Good luck, K8. You're a good woman for even caring when it seems clear so many have already dismissed him as a bad lot. I reckon Baino might be on to something. Tell him you’ll pay him 50 cent or something for not swearing while your kids are playing outside. That might give him the message that not all families curse to that degree.

If his mother’s a rum ‘un, it might be worth calling him in for a snack with your kids sometime on the condition that he doesn’t swear. Curiosity might bring him in the first time but it may give him a chance to see how a normal family operates. The message will be that you haven’t written him off, you think he’s good enough to come into your home but he needs to modify his behaviour while he’s there.

Or just bring him out a biscuit and lemonade or something when you’re giving a snack to your own. Nothing you can do for a kid is ever wasted however much they might reject it, I really believe that. They’ll remember the kindness long after you’ve forgotten it. Thye’ll know that there is another way to live your life.

Good luck, K8. You’re a good woman for even caring when it seems clear so many have already dismissed him as a bad lot.

]]> By: K8 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2049 K8 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:16:08 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2049 Baino! You got filtered again :) I'm not THAT concerned really, I just would love to know if there's a quick-fix once off 'Shit I hadn't thought of it from that point of view!' sort of answer. Umm... like a bucket of battery acid or something. No? Okay. Baino! You got filtered again :)
I’m not THAT concerned really, I just would love to know if there’s a quick-fix once off ‘Shit I hadn’t thought of it from that point of view!’ sort of answer.

Umm… like a bucket of battery acid or something. No? Okay.

]]> By: K8 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2048 K8 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:06:48 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2048 Tim; 'he only swears as moderately as 20 Major these days.' - what a prude!! ;) I think every kid may have tried the 'can I've a furck'n'knife?' trick at the dinnertable! You're right about the beating- an old fashioned method that just ends up teaching kids how adults deal with frustration. I do ingnore it 99% of the time, only voice up when there are smaller kids around. Medbh; Nae bother! Jason knows it's innapropriate... and funny. The other kids love it and copy him at every chance. I haven't a hope, really. Jenny; I can seriously appreciate how tough it must be sometimes, being a teacher. Having to match your methods with those of the parents must be well frustrating. Thanks for your voice on this, I was curious as to what you'd do. Deborah; I would write him off if he didn't affect my own kid so much, but he is a smart kid and pretty likeable. I'd just love to surprise the hell out of him somehow, y'know? Shock the smartarse out of him. Taiser gun, maybe? Tim; ‘he only swears as moderately as 20 Major these days.’ – what a prude!! ;)
I think every kid may have tried the ‘can I’ve a furck’n'knife?’ trick at the dinnertable! You’re right about the beating- an old fashioned method that just ends up teaching kids how adults deal with frustration. I do ingnore it 99% of the time, only voice up when there are smaller kids around.

Medbh; Nae bother! Jason knows it’s innapropriate… and funny. The other kids love it and copy him at every chance. I haven’t a hope, really.

Jenny; I can seriously appreciate how tough it must be sometimes, being a teacher. Having to match your methods with those of the parents must be well frustrating. Thanks for your voice on this, I was curious as to what you’d do.

Deborah; I would write him off if he didn’t affect my own kid so much, but he is a smart kid and pretty likeable. I’d just love to surprise the hell out of him somehow, y’know? Shock the smartarse out of him. Taiser gun, maybe?

]]> By: Baino http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2047 Baino Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:58:34 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2047 Kids need to learn what's appropriate and when. I've washed drummerboy's mouth out with soap (nice minty dishwashing liquid) before now . . didn't stop him swearing but he certainly moderated his behaviour in the home! You can't do much about what he says outside but when he's IN your house you can enforce the 'my house, my rules' law and let him know that it's not appropriate to swear. Rewards work better than punishment. See if he can go half an hour without swearing and reward him with a pack of sweets or something. At least he'll learn that it's not acceptable in some instances. Yeh but no but yeh but no but yeh but no . . . Kids need to learn what’s appropriate and when. I’ve washed drummerboy’s mouth out with soap (nice minty dishwashing liquid) before now . . didn’t stop him swearing but he certainly moderated his behaviour in the home!

You can’t do much about what he says outside but when he’s IN your house you can enforce the ‘my house, my rules’ law and let him know that it’s not appropriate to swear. Rewards work better than punishment. See if he can go half an hour without swearing and reward him with a pack of sweets or something. At least he’ll learn that it’s not acceptable in some instances. Yeh but no but yeh but no but yeh but no . . .

]]> By: Deborah http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2046 Deborah Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:32:39 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2046 Jesus K8 that's a tough one. I have no idea... I just admire your scruples, honestly and I'm ashamed to admit this, I probably would have written him off a long time ago. There's a lesson to be learned here! Jesus K8 that’s a tough one. I have no idea… I just admire your scruples, honestly and I’m ashamed to admit this, I probably would have written him off a long time ago. There’s a lesson to be learned here!

]]> By: J Adamthwaite http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2045 J Adamthwaite Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:13:36 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2045 I know kids like this too and I've yet to find a way to stop them. I tend to go with the, 'you have to know when it's appropriate' line. If I overhear them swearing with their friends, ugly as it is to here a ten year old say 'cunt', I tend to overlook it. As soon as it's directed at someone else, said in the classroom or around other children and staff, I go for a sharp, 'I don't want to hear that kind of language, thank you.' This doesn't always work. If they're angry about something, I get 'so?' a lot too, along with continued swearing. But I can always keep them in at playtime. You don't have that luxury here! I did know a teacher once who swore back at them. It shocked them enough to make a point, and was quite effective I gather. I doubt you'd get away with it now. Also, you'd probably have to be a teacher to shock them in the first place! If you ever find the answer, let me know! I know kids like this too and I’ve yet to find a way to stop them. I tend to go with the, ‘you have to know when it’s appropriate’ line.

If I overhear them swearing with their friends, ugly as it is to here a ten year old say ‘cunt’, I tend to overlook it. As soon as it’s directed at someone else, said in the classroom or around other children and staff, I go for a sharp, ‘I don’t want to hear that kind of language, thank you.’

This doesn’t always work. If they’re angry about something, I get ‘so?’ a lot too, along with continued swearing. But I can always keep them in at playtime. You don’t have that luxury here!

I did know a teacher once who swore back at them. It shocked them enough to make a point, and was quite effective I gather. I doubt you’d get away with it now. Also, you’d probably have to be a teacher to shock them in the first place!

If you ever find the answer, let me know!

]]> By: Medbh http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2044 Medbh Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:28:55 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2044 Oh, and thanks for the link, K8! Oh, and thanks for the link, K8!

]]> By: Medbh http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2043 Medbh Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:28:27 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2043 Love that LOL Cat. K8, I bet this boy is really sweet on you and he might take what you say about language to heart. Maybe something gentle like "it really makes me sad to hear you use language like that. Those words are angry and based in violence or bad thoughts and I know that you're such a great boy" something like that? The truth is, if his mother makes it no biggie then it may be some years before he realizes how bad it sounds. Love that LOL Cat.

K8, I bet this boy is really sweet on you and he might take what you say about language to heart. Maybe something gentle like “it really makes me sad to hear you use language like that. Those words are angry and based in violence or bad thoughts and I know that you’re such a great boy” something like that? The truth is, if his mother makes it no biggie then it may be some years before he realizes how bad it sounds.

]]> By: Tim http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2042 Tim Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:00:54 +0000 http://www.cackaloo.com/2008/03/27/blue-rain/#comment-2042 I remember teaching my then 6 year old brother to say "fuck", he of course repeated it at the dinner table as "puck", when he dropped his fork, I immediately got a dig from the da without so much as a "did you teach him to say that" but that was 25 years ago and beating the shit out of kids didn't work then and it won't work now, even though it was well used on us, not suggesting you employ or think of such a method. Your "kid" probably thinks its cool as long as it gets him attention, and the more attention the more encouraged etc. The brother after my lesson how to say "fuck" has developed into a mature adult,he only swears as moderately as 20 Major these days. I remember teaching my then 6 year old brother to say “fuck”, he of course repeated it at the dinner table as “puck”, when he dropped his fork, I immediately got a dig from the da without so much as a “did you teach him to say that” but that was 25 years ago and beating the shit out of kids didn’t work then and it won’t work now, even though it was well used on us, not suggesting you employ or think of such a method. Your “kid” probably thinks its cool as long as it gets him attention, and the more attention the more encouraged etc.
The brother after my lesson how to say “fuck” has developed into a mature adult,he only swears as moderately as 20 Major these days.

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